Legislature(2015 - 2016)SENATE FINANCE 532

04/06/2015 09:00 AM Senate FINANCE

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09:01:55 AM Start
09:04:17 AM SB26
09:04:25 AM Public Testimony: Anchorage
09:52:51 AM Public Testimony: Kenai, Seward, Homer
10:59:55 AM Public Testimony: Mat-su, Glennallen, Delta Junction
11:32:54 AM SB86
11:52:19 AM Public Testimony: Mat-su
01:37:53 PM Public Testimony: Barrow, Ketchikan, Wrangell, Petersburg
03:02:45 PM Public Testimony: Sitka, Cordova, Valdez
03:08:04 PM Public Testimony: Juneau
04:31:39 PM Public Testimony: Fairbanks, Tok
05:39:53 PM Public Testimony: Bethel, Nome, Kotzebue, Unalaska
06:25:53 PM Public Testimony: Kodiak, Dillingham
07:05:38 PM Public Testimony: Statewide Teleconference - Offnet Sites
07:45:02 PM Adjourn
* first hearing in first committee of referral
+ teleconferenced
= bill was previously heard/scheduled
Presentation: Overview FY17 Operating Budget
+= SB 26 BUDGET: CAPITAL TELECONFERENCED
Heard & Held
-- Public Testimony --
+ Bills Previously Heard/Scheduled: TELECONFERENCED
= SB 86 REFINED FUEL SURCHARGE; MOTOR FUEL TAX
Moved CSSB 86(FIN) Out of Committee
+ Statewide Public Testimony: TELECONFERENCED
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9:00 am Anchorage
10:00 am Kenai, Seward, Homer
11:00 am Mat-Su, Glennallen, Delta Junction
1:30 pm Barrow, Ketchikan, Wrangell, Petersburg
2:30 pm Sitka, Cordova, Valdez
3:30 pm Juneau
4:30 pm Fairbanks, Tok
5:30 pm Bethel, Nome, Kotzebue, Unalaska
6:30 pm Kodiak, Dillingham
7:00 pm Statewide Teleconference - Offnet Sites
SENATE BILL NO. 86                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     "An Act relating to a refined fuel surcharge; relating                                                                     
     to the motor fuel tax; relating to a qualified dealer                                                                      
     license; and providing for an effective date."                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
11:32:54 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon   relayed  that  public   testimony  had                                                                    
previously been heard on the legislation.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche  relayed  that  the  legislation  would                                                                    
supplement  the Spill  Prevention and  Response (SPAR)  fund                                                                    
[under the Department  of Environmental Conservation]. There                                                                    
was currently  an inadequate amount  of funding  coming from                                                                    
the production of  oil and gas. The legislation  was a "user                                                                    
pays  or  spiller pays"  bill  that  would take  $.0095  per                                                                    
gallon  at  the  distribution level  and  provided  adequate                                                                    
funding for  the response fund.  He detailed that  the state                                                                    
had primacy for  spill prevention and response  and the bill                                                                    
would  enable  the  state  to continue  with  the  level  of                                                                    
service it had been delivering for many years.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
11:34:13 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked for verification  that the cost was                                                                    
under  one   penny.  Vice-Chair  Micciche  replied   in  the                                                                    
affirmative.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy asked for verification  that the cost would                                                                    
be one penny per  gallon. Vice-Chair Micciche clarified that                                                                    
it would be less than one penny per gallon.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy  asked what the  average cost would  be for                                                                    
individuals using fuel oil to heat their homes.                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche  answered  that the  cost  would  equal                                                                    
approximately  $4.00  per  year  for  the  average  Alaskan;                                                                    
however,  the  larger users  such  as  mines and  businesses                                                                    
would pick up the majority of  the load. For example, if 500                                                                    
gallons of  oil was used per  year, the cost would  be under                                                                    
$5.00.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Senator Dunleavy surmised that  the surcharge would apply to                                                                    
everyone, including  nonprofits such as  schools. Vice-Chair                                                                    
Micciche  replied that  there were  some  exemptions in  the                                                                    
bill, but the  surcharge would apply to  everyone other than                                                                    
the state.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:35:47 AM                                                                                                                   
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11:36:02 AM                                                                                                                   
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Vice-Chair Micciche relayed that the  hope was that the cost                                                                    
would  not  be passed  down,  but  it  was not  possible  to                                                                    
guarantee that  the surcharge would go  to the distributors.                                                                    
However,  there  were  five exemptions  in  the  legislation                                                                    
including fuel sold to a  federal or state government agency                                                                    
for  official use,  fuel  refined and  used  outside of  the                                                                    
United   States,  liquefied   petroleum  gas   (propane  and                                                                    
aviation  fuel),  and  fuel   sold  or  transferred  between                                                                    
qualified dealers.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Dunleavy wondered  if school  districts fell  under                                                                    
the state agency category. Vice-Chair  Micciche did not know                                                                    
[Note: answer was provided after the following "at ease"].                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
11:36:51 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:40:03 AM                                                                                                                   
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Vice-Chair Micciche, in response  to a question from Senator                                                                    
Dunleavy,  stated  that the  surcharge  went  to the  dealer                                                                    
level; however, fuel  sold to a federal  or state government                                                                    
did not include local governments as an exemption.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair  MacKinnon asked  for detail  on the  bill's fiscal                                                                    
notes.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche  spoke  to  the  bill's  fiscal  notes,                                                                    
beginning with  a zero  fiscal note  from the  Department of                                                                    
Environmental  Conservation  (FY  16   through  FY  21).  He                                                                    
relayed  that  there  would  be  no  fiscal  impact  to  the                                                                    
Division    of   Spill    Prevention   and    Response   for                                                                    
implementation of the legislation.                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Senator  Bishop  communicated  that  the  legislation  would                                                                    
alleviate  the  projected revenue  shortfall  for  FY 16  at                                                                    
approximately $7 million.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair Micciche  addressed a  zero fiscal note  from the                                                                    
Department  of Revenue  (DOR)(FY  16 through  FY 21).  There                                                                    
would be  a change  in revenue, at  an expected  $.0095; the                                                                    
change would bring  in $7,600,000 million in FY 16  with a 2                                                                    
percent  increase across  FY 17  through FY  21 ($7,750,000,                                                                    
$7,900,000,    $8,050,000,   $8,200,000,    and   $8,350,000                                                                    
respectively).  The  estimated  supplemental in  FY  15  was                                                                    
$50,000;  there  was  no  estimated capital  in  FY  16.  He                                                                    
relayed that the  $50,000 would cover the  costs of updating                                                                    
systems, form, and draft regulations for the new surcharge.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
11:43:24 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked  if DOR had anything to  add to the                                                                    
fiscal analysis of the bill.                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
KEN ALPER,  DIRECTOR, TAX  DIVISION, DEPARTMENT  OF REVENUE,                                                                    
confirmed that  there were no continuing  costs; any changes                                                                    
would  be absorbed  within the  department's operations  and                                                                    
excise  tax  group  under  the Tax  Division.  There  was  a                                                                    
relatively  small   startup  cost  to  adapt   some  of  the                                                                    
documents and systems to the new surcharge.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon  wondered if the projected  revenue would                                                                    
be  recurring into  the future.  She asked  for verification                                                                    
that the  bill did  not include a  sunset clause.  Mr. Alper                                                                    
replied  in the  affirmative. He  explained the  expectation                                                                    
that as  long as  fuel was  consumed in  Alaska it  would be                                                                    
subject to the surcharge.                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked if the  fund was currently solvent.                                                                    
Mr.  Alper replied  that the  SPAR fund  was anticipated  to                                                                    
have shortfalls  in the current  fiscal year. He  added that                                                                    
under the legislation the money  would be deposited into the                                                                    
general  fund  and  subject to  appropriation  it  would  be                                                                    
transferred into  the SPAR fund.  He remarked that  a fiscal                                                                    
note from  the Legislative  Finance Division  described some                                                                    
of the  mechanisms; the issue  was outside the scope  of the                                                                    
Tax Division.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
11:45:40 AM                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche  relayed  that the  fund  was  $800,000                                                                    
short in  the current fiscal  year and the  shortfall became                                                                    
substantial  in  following years.  He  did  not believe  the                                                                    
state should pay for the solvency of the fund.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche stated  that the  last fiscal  note was                                                                    
from  the  Legislative  Finance   Division  for  the  Senate                                                                    
Finance  Committee.  The  note  addressed  the  need  for  a                                                                    
supplemental  appropriation  and  appropriated  the  revenue                                                                    
generated in FY 16 to the  ONH fund, resulting in a net zero                                                                    
impact on  the fiscal gap.  He commented that  currently the                                                                    
note  included  a  .8  percent  surcharge,  which  had  been                                                                    
changed to .95 percent to  factor in exemptions provided for                                                                    
aviation  fuels. He  noted that  currently  the DOR  numbers                                                                    
were more  accurate. He  detailed that FY  16 through  FY 21                                                                    
showed $7.5 million, which would  be the amount for the fund                                                                    
to  remain  solvent.  The change  in  revenues  showed  $7.5                                                                    
million per year with a 2 percent increase through FY 21.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
Co-Chair MacKinnon asked  what would happen if  the fund was                                                                    
over   funded.  She   understood   there  were   outstanding                                                                    
settlements  the fund  was  waiting  to receive.  Vice-Chair                                                                    
Micciche responded that all of  the money would be deposited                                                                    
into  the  prevention  account,  which  funded  all  of  the                                                                    
smaller spills. He referenced dry  cleaning fluid spills and                                                                    
old gas  stations that were  no longer in operation  and had                                                                    
no one to  pay for the cleanup. The surcharge  had been kept                                                                    
at a lower level to avoid funding more than required.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
11:49:08 AM                                                                                                                   
AT EASE                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
11:49:43 AM                                                                                                                   
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Vice-Chair Micciche  relayed that all funds  were subject to                                                                    
appropriation. He  stated that  in the  event the  SPAR fund                                                                    
was  over funded  the goal  was to  provide only  the amount                                                                    
needed to adequately fund the agency.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Vice-Chair  Micciche MOVED  to  REPORT CSSB  86(FIN) out  of                                                                    
committee   with   individual    recommendations   and   the                                                                    
accompanying fiscal notes. There  being NO OBJECTION, it was                                                                    
so ordered.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CSSB 86(FIN) was REPORTED out  of committee with a "do pass"                                                                    
recommendation  and  with   one  previously  published  zero                                                                    
fiscal note: FN 1(REV); one  new fiscal impact note from the                                                                    
Senate   Finance    Committee   for   the    Department   of                                                                    
Environmental Conservation;  and one new fiscal  impact note                                                                    
from the Department of Environmental Conservation.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
11:50:44 AM                                                                                                                   
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